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DaMav

Whatever his party, it's good to see that somebody is making sense. It's long past time we stopped advertising schools as places where only criminals have guns. Hopefully this great tragedy will result in a common sense end to banning concealed carry for law abiding adults at schools. The current policies leave our children defenseless.

VickiJHartley

DaMay, think about it. He killed his Mom who knew he was mentally ill and was armed to the teeth. How would an armed principal who did not know his intentions have a better chance against him? Are you suggesting she walk around with the assault weapon in her hands at all times?

DaMav

If concealed carry were permitted in schools, the criminal (insane or not) would not know who was armed, only that it would be likely that some adults were. This in itself would provide a deterrent as well as a potential stopper to any violence.

There is no need for absurdity -- "walk around with the assault weapon in her hands at all times". This is deadly serious business and permitting concealed carry by qualified adults deserves consideration. Having a law making it illegal for adults to carry on school grounds is utterly ineffective. How many times does that have to be proven before such laws are repealed?

PW

I bet you really believe that, DaMav. But it only underlines how sick we have become as a society. Let's get well first and then see if we need gun-toting school administrators.

Tom Maguire

" How would an armed principal who did not know his intentions have a better chance against him?"

I have no idea what the circumstances were when he killed his mother but she may very well have been taken by surprise.

From reports I have read the principal was in a meeting with a parent (along with the school psychologist and others) when they all heard what sounded like gunshots. The parent either dove under the table or thought about it (I wasn't sure whether she was engaging in hyperbole in her description.) The principal and psychologist jumped up and ran down the hall to confront the shooter, or anyway, address the situation. another report said she was shot while trying to tackle him.

Bringing brass onions to a gunfight takes tremendous courage and commitment to duty but really - would this be a worse world if she had courage, commitment and a weapon (with appropriate training)? As to whether she could have guessed his intentions, well, the apparent gunshots were probably a helpful clue.

"But it only underlines how sick we have become as a society. Let's get well first..."

What is the prognosis? The mother owned the guns legally and had no problem with a background check. Does anyone think a full and effective ban on rifles, shotguns and handguns is on the horizon in this country? How about a dimunition of privacy rights to the point where the mother can't own guns because her son may be mentally ill?

If a gun ban won't be happening is there a Plan B, or do we just accept the occasional mass shooting as part of the scenery?

DaMav

@PW
I do not doubt your sincerity, intellect, or concern but you seem to advocate doing nothing until all the ills of society are somehow cured. Why not consider immediate and easily achieved alternatives that might improve the odds for our children in schools?

There is no ideal solution that would work 100%, but if deterrence plus a hard counter to an ongoing attack worked even a fraction of the time that would be an improvement.

Trickster

It's worth carefully considering whether a guard or trained teacher/employee with access to arms might make schools safer. I hate the idea, but it's a question we have to look at.

What's not a question at all is whether we need to take strong action to stop the ever-increasing flood of guns, especially deadlier and deadlier guns designed to do nothing but kill lots of humans quickly.

PW

No one -- as far as I've seen/heard -- has suggested the mother may have been the real problem. Was she sane? Or do we just assume she was because she was pleasant at dice games and owned a nice piece of property and, when she bought guns, had nothing disturbing in her background? How sensible and reliable are our current criteria for gun ownership if they allow the sale of "deadlier and deadlier guns designed to do nothing but kill lots of humans quickly," as Trickster writes?

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